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Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Bava Kama 98A - 98B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
December 3, 2006
Duration
82:08

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The Eddie B. Sit Edition of the Talmud Bavli, specifically Masechet Bava Kama, is generously sponsored in our Daf Yomi program by our esteemed friend and patron, Siahou Osher HaKohen, and his beloved wife, Rena. May they continue to experience success, prosperity in all their endeavors, health, happiness, and much joy from their children. May they enjoy many years of tranquility and peace. Amen.

Today’s Daf is being studied in memory of Marat Zekena Atiya bat Sarah and for the elevation of the soul of Avi Avraham ben Esther. May Hashem grant them peace in Gan Eden. Amen.

We also dedicate today’s Daf for the complete recovery of Moshe ben Delilah. May it be Your will, Hashem, that he receives healing for both body and soul. And let us say, Amen.

We begin today’s Daf on Daf Tzadi Zayin, Amud Bet, starting from three or four lines from the bottom. Rava poses a question to Rav Chisda regarding the case of a person who borrows from a friend using a certain coin. The borrower states, “I will pay you after a set time a specific amount of sela’im.” However, during this time, the currency changes, and the new coins are now worth more than the old coins. The question arises: can the borrower repay with the new coins, which have a higher value? This situation raises a potential issue of ribit, or interest, because the borrower would be returning coins that are worth more than what was borrowed.

The Gemara asks whether one can pay back in the new currency according to Rav, who maintains that one must give the coin that is current at the time of repayment. If the new coins are worth more, does Rav still maintain that one can pay with them? Rava responds that one must indeed give the new coins, even if they are larger or of a different size, because the value of the coins has changed. The Gemara then notes that this situation could appear to involve ribit since the borrower is repaying with coins that can buy more fruit than the original amount borrowed. The concern is that the borrower borrowed ten pounds of fruit and is now returning money that can buy more than ten pounds.

Rava clarifies that the underlying issue depends on the reason for the currency change. If the value of the currency increased due to its intrinsic worth, then there is no issue of ribit. However, if the increase is due to an oversupply of fruit, causing prices to drop, then one must be cautious because it could be perceived as ribit. The distinction hinges on whether the value increase is due to the currency itself or external market factors.

The Gemara continues to elaborate on these distinctions, emphasizing that if the market conditions changed due to external factors, then the borrower can pay back with the new coins without concern for ribit. However, if the currency increase is solely due to the coin's new value, it may appear as ribit, and one must be careful in such transactions.

Rava further explains that if the fruit prices dropped because of a surplus, the borrower can pay back without concern for ribit. In contrast, if the prices remained stable, the increased value of the repayment could create a problem. The key point is to understand the nature of the transaction and the reasons behind the price changes.

The Gemara then presents a related case involving a coin that was thrown into the sea. If a person throws a friend's coin into the Mediterranean, they are not liable for its recovery, as it is not considered lost if it can still be retrieved. This situation illustrates the concept of grama, or indirect damage, where the person did not directly harm the coin but caused a potential expense for recovery.

However, this exemption only applies if the waters are clear, allowing the owner to see the coin. If the waters are murky and the coin cannot be located, it is considered lost, and the person who threw it must pay. The Gemara emphasizes that the context of the action—whether it was a direct harm or an indirect consequence—determines the liability.

As the discussion unfolds, the Gemara explores various scenarios, including the case of a person who damages a coin's appearance by sanding it down. In this case, the individual is not liable for damages since the coin's intrinsic value remains unchanged despite its altered appearance. This principle underscores the importance of direct versus indirect damage.

Rava also addresses the question of whether a person can claim compensation for damages caused by a coin that has been defaced. The Gemara concludes that if the damage does not result in a loss of value or usability, the individual is not liable for the damage.

In examining other cases, the Gemara discusses scenarios involving animals and the implications of their actions in terms of liability. The discussion highlights the distinction between direct and indirect harm, particularly in cases where an animal has caused damage or injury.

Ultimately, the Gemara emphasizes the importance of understanding the nuances of each case, as well as the underlying principles of liability and restitution. The discussions serve to clarify the complexities of halachic rulings regarding damage, repayment, and the nature of currency in transactions.

As we conclude today's learning, we reflect on the intricate nature of these halachic discussions, which guide us in navigating the complexities of our daily interactions and responsibilities. May we continue to delve deeply into these teachings, drawing wisdom and understanding from them in our lives. Baruch Hashem l'olam, Amen.