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Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Bava Kamma 34A - 34B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
October 31, 2006
Duration
59:45

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The EB Sit edition, an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, Masechet Bava Kamma, has been generously sponsored in our Daf Yomi program by our good friend and patron, charter member of our Daf Yomi class, Siyahu Ashar HaKohen, and his dear wife Rena. May they continue to have success, prosperity in all their endeavors, health, happiness, and much joy from their children. May they enjoy many years of tranquility and peace of mind, amen. Today’s daf is being studied for the elevation of the soul of Morei Zekeni Yosef ben Sarah and Mart Zekenti Yafa bat Sarah, as well as for the soul of Avraham ben Ester. May the spirit of Hashem rest upon them in Gan Eden, amen. Today’s daf is also being studied for a complete recovery for Moshe ben Dina. Please, God, heal him, both physically and spiritually, among the other sick of His people Israel, and let it be Your will, amen.

We begin today’s daf six lines down, starting from the braita of Tano Rabbanan. The braita states: An ox worth two hundred damaged another ox worth two hundred. It caused damage amounting to fifty zuz, which means now the damaged ox, the nizak, is only worth one hundred and fifty. Therefore, we know the payment will have to be half of fifty, as a tam would be twenty-five zuz.

However, what happens next is significant. The ox of the nizak appreciated in value and is now worth four hundred zuz. The mazik cannot claim exemption from payment by arguing that he did not cause any loss, as the nizak can respond that had it not been for the damage, his ox would have appreciated even more, potentially reaching eight hundred zuz. Thus, the mazik must pay according to the time of the damage, which is twenty-five zuz.

This introduces the first chiddush of the braita. The second chiddush addresses a situation where the mazik’s ox depreciated. For example, if the nizak’s ox was initially worth one hundred and fifty at the time of the damage, and later, by the time they reached court, it was only worth one hundred zuz, the ruling is that the hatzi nezek is judged according to the time of the standing in court. Therefore, if it depreciated by fifty zuz, the mazik must compensate for that additional loss.

The braita continues by stating that if the damage was fifty zuz, and at the time of the goring, the mazik’s ox was worth two hundred, he would owe twenty-five zuz for the damage. This is one-eighth of his worth. If the mazik’s ox then appreciates to four hundred zuz by the time it reaches the beit din, we do not say that he must pay fifty zuz now based on the current value. Instead, he pays the same twenty-five according to the value at the time of the damage.

Conversely, if the mazik’s ox depreciates to one hundred zuz by the time they reach court, the Gemara states that the mazik will only have to pay according to its value at that time, which would be twelve and a half zuz. This indicates an advantage for the mazik if his ox depreciates by the time of the court ruling.

Now, the Gemara will analyze each part of the braita. It states that if the mazik’s ox appreciated from two hundred to four hundred, he will pay according to the value at the time of the damage, which remains twenty-five zuz. The Gemara questions whose opinion this braita follows, suggesting it aligns with the view of Rabbi Yishmael, who holds that the mazik’s ox belongs solely to him, and thus he owes only half the damage regardless of his ox's appreciation.

However, the Gemara presents a contradiction with the latter part of the braita, which states that if the mazik’s ox depreciated, he pays according to the time of the standing in court. This implies that the nizak shares in the mazik’s loss, indicating a partnership in the animal, which aligns with the view of Rabbi Akiva.

The Gemara resolves this by stating that the entire braita aligns with Rabbi Akiva, who views both parties as partners. In cases where the mazik’s ox appreciates, the nizak benefits from that increase. However, if the mazik has fed or fattened his ox, the nizak does not have a share in that benefit, as it is not a natural increase.

The Gemara further discusses scenarios where the nizak’s ox appreciates or depreciates, emphasizing that the mazik pays according to the value at the time of the damage or standing in court. The discussion includes the implications of the nizak’s actions on the value of the ox, such as if he worked the ox after the goring, which could lead to further depreciation.

In the subsequent mishna, there is a famous dispute between Rabbi Meir and Rabbi Yehuda regarding the understanding of the ox mentioned in the Torah that pays hatzi nezek. Both agree it is hatzi nezek, but they differ on the interpretation of the verses. The mishna states that an ox worth two hundred damaged another ox worth two hundred, and if the neveilah is worth nothing, the damage is full, and thus the hatzi nezek is one hundred.

Rabbi Meir cites the Torah’s instruction to sell the living ox and split its value, while Rabbi Yehuda counters that the Torah’s mention of splitting the dead ox indicates that there is a different case where the dead animal has value. Thus, he presents a scenario where both animals are worth two hundred, and the neveilah is worth fifty, leading to a different calculation of damages.

The Gemara then analyzes the implications of these differing views, particularly focusing on the potential for the mazik to benefit financially from the nizak’s loss, which raises questions about fairness and the principles governing compensation.

Ultimately, the discussion highlights the nuances of liability and compensation in cases of damage, emphasizing the importance of understanding the underlying principles of partnership and loss-sharing between the mazik and the nizak. The Gemara concludes that while the mazik must always pay for the damage, the specific amounts can vary based on the circumstances of appreciation or depreciation, showing the dynamic nature of halachic rulings in these complex situations.

Baruch Hashem l'olam, amen.