A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Bava Metzia 8A - 8B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
December 25, 2006
Duration
55:20

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The Elliot B. Sit Edition presents an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, focusing on Bava Metzia, Daf 2. This Daf is being studied for the elevation of the souls of Benzion ben Yitzchak Lipa ben Sarah and Avraham ben Esther. May the spirit of Hashem rest upon them in Gan Eden, Amen.

In today's Daf, we begin on Chet Amud Rishon, with the statement of Rami Bar Chama. He asserts, "This means that when one picks up a found object for a friend, the friend acquires it." This ruling is significant and is based on the principle of "Zachin l'Adam Shelo B'Fanav," which allows one to benefit another even in their absence, as it is a merit for them. Who would not want a found object? However, it is important to note that by picking it up for Reuven, he may be causing harm to Shimon, who could have picked it up for himself. Rami Bar Chama supports his claim with proof from our Mishnah, indicating that when it comes to found objects, one can indeed pick it up for someone else, and the other person acquires it. His proof is as follows: if you think that one does not acquire for a friend, then treat this case as if it were lying on the ground, and neither would acquire it. Therefore, we conclude that when one picks up a found object for a friend, the friend indeed acquires it.

Rami Bar Chama presents a scenario where two individuals pick up a found object together. The ruling is that they split the object. However, it is essential to understand that one can only acquire part of a tallit if they are holding the entire tallit. If someone picks up half of it while the other half remains on the ground, they do not acquire even half. A complete acquisition, or kinyan, requires lifting the entire object. In the case of Reuven and Shimon, who are partners, they must pick up the tallit together. When Reuven lifts his side, he acquires it for himself and for Shimon. Similarly, Shimon does the same for his side. Thus, they can split the tallit. This demonstrates that finding a metzia allows for the same principle: one can pick it up for a friend, just as Reuven picks up his side for both himself and Shimon.

However, after presenting his proof, the Gemara introduces a critical distinction through the words of Rava. He states, "In truth, I will tell you that when one picks up a found object for a friend, the friend does not acquire it." The reasoning is that when I pick up a metzia for my friend, I am causing harm to someone else. A merit must be a perfect merit, and in this case, it is not. Rava explains that the reason the Mishnah works is due to the principle of "Migo d'Zachai L'Nafshei Zachai Nami L'Chavrei." In the case of Reuven picking up his half of the tallit, he has already established a kinyan for himself, allowing him to acquire for his friend as well. However, a standard found object does not provide that same opportunity for acquisition on behalf of another.

Rava further illustrates his point with a contrasting example: if one instructs their agent to go and steal for them, the agent is liable for the theft. However, if two partners commit theft, when one picks it up, the other is also liable, as they are partners in the crime. The logic here follows the same principle of "Migo d'Zachai L'Nafshei Zachai Nami L'Chavrei." Rava extends this chiddush, emphasizing that the mechanics of our Mishnah hinge on the established kinyan of the individuals involved.

The discussion continues with the case of a deaf-mute (cheresh) and a person of sound mind (pikeach) who find a metzia together. The cheresh has a kinyan d'rabbanan, as the sages established a kinyan for them to prevent theft. When the cheresh picks up the metzia, one might think that he should acquire it, but the pikeach's acquisition must be considered as well. The Gemara notes that the cheresh can acquire, but the pikeach's acquisition is not straightforward. The pikeach, being of sound mind, must have a clear intention to acquire; thus, if he is merely sitting on the animal, he does not acquire it. The cheresh, however, does acquire because he is holding the metzia. This leads to a deeper examination of the nuances of acquisition in halacha.

As the Gemara progresses, it raises further questions regarding the principles of kinyan in different scenarios, especially when both a cheresh and a pikeach are involved. The discussion emphasizes that the rules governing acquisition are complex and must consider the intentions and actions of each party. The Gemara ultimately concludes that in the case of the cheresh and pikeach, the dynamics of their respective abilities to acquire differ based on their capacities and the nature of the kinyan.

In summary, the exploration of acquisition principles in this Daf highlights the importance of intention, action, and the interplay of various factors in establishing ownership. Rami Bar Chama's assertion about picking up a metzia for a friend is met with Rava's nuanced understanding that underscores the complexities of halachic rulings. The discussions reveal the depth of thought and the careful consideration given to each case, ensuring that halacha remains precise and relevant.