A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Bava Batra 70A - 70B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
March 4, 2007
Duration
55:45

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The EB SIT edition presents an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, specifically focusing on Masechet Bava Batra. This Masechet, the longest in Shas, is dedicated to our dear friend and pioneering student of the Daf Yomi Shiur, Aaron Ezra, may Hashem protect and sustain him, Amen. We pray for the success of his children, that they grow to bring him much nachat, and that they be blessed with wisdom, understanding, and knowledge. With Hashem's help, may they merit, in due time, to find suitable matches and enjoy prosperity and honor from now and forever. May it be so for him, his wife, and his entire family, Amen. Today’s Daf is Daf Ayin, in the Perek HaMocher Et HaBayit. We study today in memory of Avraham ben Ester, may Hashem grant him peace in Gan Eden, Amen. We begin today’s Daf on Samech Tet Amud Bet, two lines from the bottom, starting with "Amar Rav."

The Gemara states, "Amar Rav." Previously, we learned that when a person sells a field and states, "I am selling you the field except for the trees," and the only trees present are date palms, we concluded that even though a date palm is not classified as a tree, in this context, when he mentions trees, he means the date palms and thus retains ownership of them. The Gemara now revisits this case and introduces a distinction between tall trees and short trees. What is the difference here? The Gemara explains, "Amar Rav, kol she'olin lo b'chevel, havei shiyur." Any tree that is tall enough that one must use a rope to reach its fruit is considered a retained tree. If the tree is short enough that one can simply shake it to obtain the fruit, it is included in the sale of the field.

What exactly is being discussed? The Rashbam, in his commentary, clarifies that this discussion pertains to the case we just reviewed. When he said, "except for the trees," he refers specifically to those trees that require a rope to harvest their fruit. If the trees are small, they do not qualify as trees and are sold with the field. The Rashbam elaborates, stating that any tree that requires a rope to harvest its fruit is considered significant, while smaller trees, which can be easily shaken, are not considered trees in this context and thus are included in the sale.

The Gemara continues, noting that there are differing opinions among the judges in the diaspora. The judges in the Galut assert that any tree that can be easily plowed over is not considered a retained tree. If the tree is substantial enough that an animal cannot simply plow over it without moving aside, it is regarded as a tree that has been retained. The Gemara further explains that the judges in the Galut, such as Shmuel and a rabbi named Karna, maintain that a tree which can be easily plowed over does not count as a tree, while a tree that is significant enough to impede the plowing is considered a shiyur, and thus retained.

The Gemara then poses a question regarding the differing opinions. It clarifies that the disagreement between Rav and the judges of the Galut concerns different types of trees. Rav refers to date palms, asserting that if the fruit is high enough that a rope is necessary to reach it, it is considered a date palm. Conversely, the judges of the Galut refer to trees that can be easily plowed over, which indicates a different category of tree altogether.

Next, the Gemara examines a new case: if a seller specifies, "except for this carob tree" or "except for this sycamore tree," the question arises as to why such specifications are necessary. Typically, mature trees are considered separate entities in a sale. The Gemara queries whether the seller intends to exclude only the specified tree while including others, or if he is implying that the other trees are also included in the sale.

The Rashbam explains that the seller's specification serves to clarify his intention regarding the trees. If he had remained silent, the understanding would be that the trees are included in the sale. However, by specifying one tree, he may be indicating that he retains ownership of that tree while offering the others for sale. The Gemara discusses the implications of this specification and the potential for misunderstanding regarding the ownership of other trees in the field.

As the discussion progresses, the Gemara raises another scenario where a seller states, "except for half of this carob tree." The question arises whether the other half of the tree remains with the seller or if it is also sold. The Gemara contemplates the implications of such a statement and whether the seller's intention is clear enough to determine ownership of the remaining half.

Ultimately, the Gemara concludes that when selling a field and retaining half of a tree, the seller retains ownership of the entire tree. This conclusion emphasizes the need for clarity in transactions and the importance of explicit statements to determine ownership rights.

Continuing, Rav Amram poses a question regarding a situation where one deposits an item with a friend and provides a written acknowledgment. If the friend claims to have returned the item, the question arises whether he is believed. The Gemara explores the implications of having a written acknowledgment in such cases. The discussion centers on whether the existence of a document negates the friend's claim of having returned the item.

The Gemara navigates the complexities of this situation, weighing the validity of the friend's claim against the written acknowledgment. The concept of migo is introduced, suggesting that if the friend had the option to claim he was robbed, he can also assert that he returned the item, thus lending credibility to his statement.

As the discussion unfolds, the Gemara highlights the nuances of ownership, trust, and the weight of documentation in transactions. The interplay between verbal claims and written acknowledgments creates a rich tapestry of halachic considerations, emphasizing the need for clarity and mutual understanding in financial dealings.

In conclusion, the exploration of these cases in the Gemara reveals the intricate dynamics of ownership, intention, and the significance of clear communication in transactions. Each ruling and distinction serves to guide individuals in navigating the complexities of their financial relationships, ensuring that rights and responsibilities are upheld in accordance with halachic principles.

Baruch Hashem, may our learning continue to deepen our understanding and strengthen our connections to these important teachings. Amen.