A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Torah Lecture

Bava Batra 85A - 85B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
March 11, 2007
Duration
46:29

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The AB Sit Edition presents an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, focusing on the lengthy tractate of Masechet Bava Batra. This tractate, the longest in the entire Shas, is dedicated by our esteemed friend and pioneer, a dedicated student of the Daf Yomi Shiur, Avraham Ezra Hashem Yishmerehu Veyichyehu. He dedicates this study for the success of his beloved children, praying they grow to bring him much nachat, and that they be blessed with chochmah binah vada'at. May they merit, with the help of B'ezrat Hashem, to find their proper zivugim in wealth, honor, and success from now until eternity. Amen. Amen.

Today’s study, Daf Pe He, is dedicated to the memory of Avraham ben Esther, and may his soul find rest in the Garden of Eden. Amen. We also study today for the complete recovery of Adina Zakiyah bat Esther and Sara Miriam bat Tamar Basileli. May their healing be swift, both for body and soul, and may it be God’s will. Amen.

We begin today’s daf on Pe Dalet Amud Bet, starting from the bottom line. Both Rav and Shmuel stated, “The utensils of a person acquire for him in any place.” This means that a person’s utensils, or kelim, can acquire items anywhere, even within the domain of the seller. For instance, if you are in a store and the seller places fruit into your basket, that basket is your property and is not lacking in any way, thus it acquires the items even in the seller's domain, except in the public domain, or reshut harabim.

However, Rabbi Yochanan and Rabbi Shimon ben Lakish argue that the utensils of a person can acquire even in the public domain. Rav Pappa clarifies that they are not in disagreement; they refer to different contexts. When it is stated that acquisition does not occur in the public domain, it is referring specifically to the public domain itself, while Rabbi Yochanan refers to a side alley, or simta, which is adjacent to the public domain.

Thus, all agree that the utensils of the buyer do not acquire in the public domain. In a private courtyard, however, Rabbi Yochanan asserts that acquisition can occur even in the public domain, meaning in a simta. The Gemara questions why the term reshut harabim is used if it is meant to refer to a simta. The response is that it is not a true public domain, as it lacks the characteristics of a private domain.

The Gemara continues by discussing the acquisition of items through a measuring vessel, or kli mida. Until the vessel is filled, the items belong to the seller. Once the vessel is full, ownership transfers to the buyer, but this is contingent on the measuring vessel not belonging to either party. If the vessel belongs to one of them, as soon as any item is placed into it, that item becomes the property of the owner of the vessel.

When discussing the acquisition in different domains, the Gemara states that the buyer does not acquire the items in the seller's domain until the buyer either lifts the items or removes them from the seller's possession. This leads to a discussion about whether the buyer’s utensils can acquire items in the seller's domain. The conclusion reached is that the buyer must perform an action to effectuate the acquisition.

The Gemara presents four scenarios regarding sales, including cases where the items are in the seller's possession, the buyer's possession, or a third party's possession. In the case where the items are in a third party's warehouse, the buyer cannot acquire them until the warehouse keeper agrees to transfer ownership.

Throughout this discussion, the Gemara emphasizes the importance of the domains involved in the acquisition process and the actions required to complete a sale. It is clear that the nature of the domain—whether it is public, private, or shared—significantly impacts the validity of the acquisition.

As we delve deeper into these discussions, we see the intricate relationships between possession, rights, and the various types of domains that govern transactions. The complexity of these rulings highlights the need for careful consideration of each case, ensuring that all halachic principles are meticulously adhered to.

In conclusion, as we continue to study Masechet Bava Batra, let us remain mindful of the nuances presented in each discussion, as they are foundational to our understanding of Jewish law and its application in our daily lives. May our studies be fruitful and bring us closer to the wisdom contained within the Torah. Amen.