A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Bava Batra 145A - 145B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
April 1, 2007
Duration
53:07

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The Eddie B Sit Edition presents an audio series on the תלמוד בבלי, specifically focusing on מסכת בבא בתרא. This particular מסכת is notable for being the longest in terms of page count within ש"ס. Today, we dedicate our learning to the success of our dear friend and pioneering student in the דף יומי שיעור, עמרם עזרא בן שמעון שרבחיאו, who wishes for his children to grow in wisdom and understanding, and to bring him much nachat. We pray that they should merit proper zivugim, parnassa, and honor, from now until eternity. Amen. Additionally, we dedicate this daf to the elevation of the soul of אברהם בן אסתר, may his soul be guided in Gan Eden, and for the complete recovery of משה בן נונא and מיקי מאיר בן ג'יימי ג'מילה. May it be Your will, and we say Amen.

We are on daf קמ"ה, page 105, and our learning begins four lines down: "לימא תנו לי בעלי ואשמח עמו." This refers to a case of קידושין, where a man gave a ring to a woman, signifying their engagement. Unfortunately, the husband passed away before they could consummate the marriage. In this case, it is universally agreed that she retains the ring and does not need to return it to the heirs. The reasoning is clear: she did not cause the marriage to end; her husband died, and she was ready to fulfill her part in the marriage. The Gemara elaborates on this, suggesting that while it seems straightforward, it could be seen as a מחלוקת. How do we know this? The Gemara cites a teaching: "דתניא המארס את האישה בתולה גובה מאתיים." A man who marries a virgin has a ketubah of 200 zuz, while a widow has a ketubah of 100 zuz.

We learn that in places where it is customary to return the קידושין, they must be returned. Conversely, in places where it is customary not to return them, they are not returned, as stated by רבי. The discussion continues, noting that both רבי יהודה הנשיא and רבי נתן agree that the halacha depends on the minhag of the community. The Gemara then questions whether רבי יהודה הנשיא is merely reiterating the opinion of the first Tanna. The distinction arises when considering whether the woman can claim, "Give me my husband, and I will be happy." The Gemara suggests that the difference between the opinions lies in this very claim. The Gemara proposes that a certain wording is missing from the teaching, which would clarify the opinions.

To summarize the halachic principles: if the husband dies, she does not return the קידושין, as she can claim her right to her husband. However, if she dies, the customs of the community dictate whether the קידושין must be returned. This leads to a deeper examination of the nature of the קידושין and the intentions behind them. Rabbi Natan posits that the קידושין were not given with the expectation of return, while רבי יהודה הנשיא argues that they were given with the expectation of marriage. This distinction is crucial in determining the outcome of such cases.

The Gemara then discusses the ramifications of these distinctions in various scenarios, focusing on the implications of a husband’s death versus a wife’s death. When the husband dies, the woman is entitled to keep the קידושין, as she can assert her readiness for marriage. However, if she dies, the community's customs dictate the return of the קידושין, depending on local practices. This illustrates the importance of minhag in halachic rulings.

As we delve deeper, the Gemara raises questions regarding the nature of the engagement gifts and whether they should be returned. The discussion touches upon the various customs and their implications on the return of both the קידושין and other gifts. The Gemara examines the opinions of different Tannaim regarding the return of these gifts, emphasizing the need for clarity and precision in halachic matters.

Ultimately, the Gemara concludes that the halacha is that the return of the קידושין is dependent on the community's minhag, and this remains true regardless of whether the husband or wife has passed away. The intricacies of these discussions reveal the profound depth of halachic reasoning and the necessity for clear guidelines in both personal and communal contexts.