A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Nida 22A - 22B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
May 7, 2008
Duration
45:47

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The Eddie B Sit Edition, an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, Masechet Niddah, has been dedicated by Ron Yaish in honor of his children, Ovadia Avraham ben Reizel Shifra and Levi Yitzchak ben Reizel Shifra, and also in honor of his Eshet Chayil, Reizel Shifra bat Tova Yocheved. We bless Ron Yaish and his wife that, with the help of Hashem, they should continue to have more children and see much nachat from their current children, both spiritually and materially. Amen.

We begin today's daf on Daf Chaf Aleph, starting with the words, "Ba'i minei Rabbi Yirmiyah meRabbi Zeira." This is located seventeen lines from the bottom of the page, at the last words on the line. The question posed is: "Haro'ah dam beshifpoferet, mahu? 'Bivsarah' amar Rachmana, velo beshifpoferet; o dilma hai 'bivsarah', mib'ei lei shemetamei mibifnim kebichutz?" This translates to whether a woman who sees blood through a tube is rendered tamei, as the Torah states the term "bivsarah." The concern is whether the blood must touch her or not. The blood emerges from the womb into the tube, creating a separation, as it does not actually touch her body. The question is whether this separation affects her status of tumah.

The Gemara clarifies that the term "bivsarah" indicates that the blood must indeed make contact with her. If it were otherwise, the term would have simply been "b'basar." The distinction is important because it implies that the blood, once it exits the womb, is already considered tamei, even if it has not yet left her body. The discussion continues with the implications of whether the blood must touch her walls or if the separation via the tube negates its tumah status.

Rabbi Yochanan, quoting Rabbi Shimon ben Yochai, states that if a woman secretes a piece of flesh, if there is blood within it, she is tamei, but if there is no blood, she is tehorah. The Gemara questions this ruling, as the piece of flesh, like the tube, does not touch the walls of her body. The distinction lies in whether the blood within the piece of flesh is considered connected to her body or not. The Gemara concludes that the reason for the differing statuses of the blood in the tube versus the flesh relates to the typical way a woman sees blood.

The discussion evolves into a machloket regarding the status of the blood in a tube versus that in a piece of flesh. The Tanna Kamma states that the presence of blood in a piece of flesh does not render her tamei, while Rabbi Eliezer argues that it must be connected to her body to be considered tamei. The Gemara explores the implications of this machloket, particularly focusing on the definitions of tumah and how they apply in different scenarios.

Furthermore, the Gemara examines the status of dry blood and whether it is considered tamei. The ruling states that the pasuk indicates that only fresh blood is considered when determining tumah. The discussion continues with various cases, including those of other bodily fluids and their implications on tumah, particularly regarding the different ways in which they might emerge from the body.

As the Gemara progresses, it also discusses the implications of a woman who sees blood in various contexts, including the effects of other forms of discharge, and how these discharges impact her status of tumah. Each case is carefully analyzed to determine whether the blood is considered niddah or if it falls under a different category of tumah.

Ultimately, the Gemara concludes with a nuanced understanding of the distinctions between different types of discharges and how they affect a woman's status. The ongoing exploration of these concepts highlights the depth and complexity of halachic rulings regarding tumah and taharah, emphasizing the importance of precise definitions and distinctions in halachic discourse.