A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Hulin 23A - 23B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
December 27, 2007
Duration
44:59

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The Eddie B. Sit edition of the audio series of the Talmud Bavli presents a study of Masechet Chullin, dedicated by our good friend Joey Jamal and his wife in honor of their son Jack's engagement to Shirley Sutton. With the help of B'ezrat Hashem, may they marry B'sha'ah Tovah u'Mutzlachat, and may the merit of the learning we will engage in over the next several months in Masechet Chullin bring them much Nachat, Shalom Bayit, peace, prosperity, and all the Berachot. Amen. Today, we begin our study on Daf Chaf Gimmel, focusing on the text found on Daf Chaf Bet, Amud Bet, starting three, four, five, six, seven, eight lines from the bottom.

We encounter a question posed by Rabbi Zeira: “If one says, ‘I will bring an olah from the turtledoves or from the doves,’ and he brings a bird that has started to develop yellow hairs, what is the halachic status?” Previously, we learned that the presence of yellow hairs disqualifies the bird from being classified as either a yonah (dove) or a tor (turtledove). The case involves two birds, both at the beginning of the yellowing process. The question arises: has he fulfilled his obligation, or not?

The Gemara elaborates on this: is it possible that the bird is a safek (doubt), thus allowing for some leniency? If we consider the yellowing as a safek, then since he brought both types of birds, he should be covered. He declared his intention to bring either a tor or a yonah, and since he brought both, he could potentially fulfill his obligation with one of them. However, if we argue that the bird is neither, he may not have fulfilled his obligation at all.

Rashi clarifies that the initial intention was to bring a tor or a yonah. If he brought a bird with yellow hairs, it is disqualified due to the doubt surrounding its status. The halacha states that if one vowed to bring torim, he cannot fulfill his obligation with this bird because it may be a katan (small) or a gadol (large). The same applies to the one who vowed to bring bnei yonah; he cannot fulfill his obligation with this bird either, as it may also be a gadol or a katan.

In contrast, if one vowed to bring whichever he wanted and brought both, he is covered either way. If the birds are indeed gedolim, he satisfies the requirement for torim; if they are ketanim, he satisfies the requirement for bnei yonah. The discussion continues to clarify the implications of this halachic distinction.

Next, we examine the concept of palgas, a transitional state for animals. Rabbi Zeira poses a parallel question: if one says, “I will bring an olah from the ayil (ram) or from the keves (sheep),” and he brings a palgas, what is the halachic status? The Gemara asserts that according to Rabbi Yochanan, the palgas is considered a distinct entity, thus not fulfilling the obligation of either the ayil or the keves.

Rabbi Yochanan supports this view by referencing a mishna that states that a palgas does not count for either ayil or keves. If he brings a palgas, he must follow the guidelines for the ayil regarding nesachim (libations). If he vowed to bring either, he would not need to make a condition, as the palgas itself does not fall into either category.

A further question arises regarding si'ur (sourdough). Rabbi Zeira questions if si'ur can be considered as either chametz or matzah when brought as part of a korban todah (thanksgiving offering). The Gemara explores whether si'ur is classified according to Rabbi Meir or Rabbi Yehuda, leading to a discussion on the implications for fulfilling one’s obligation in the context of the offering.

Ultimately, the Gemara leaves several questions unresolved, indicating the complexities of halachic rulings regarding these cases. The discussions illustrate the delicate balance between intention, classification, and obligation in the realm of Jewish law. Each case presents unique challenges that require careful consideration to ensure the fulfillment of one’s vows and obligations.