A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Bava Kamma 111A - 111B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
December 12, 2006
Duration
50:17

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The MDY B-S-T Edition, an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, focuses on Masechet Bava Kamma, generously sponsored in our Daf Yomi program by our esteemed friend, Siyahu Ashar HaKohen, and his wife Rina. May they continue to have success, prosperity in all their endeavors, health, happiness, and much nachat from their children. Today's daf has been studied in memory of Marat Zekentia Faiga bat Sarah and Avraham ben Esther, may their souls be at rest in Gan Eden. Additionally, today's daf is dedicated for the healing of Shlomo Moshe ben Dina, for both spiritual and physical health, and may he find success beyond all challenges. Today, we begin on Kuf Yud Aleph Amud Bet, three to eight lines from the bottom.

We quote from the Mishna: "Natan et hakesef le'anshei mishmar." This discusses a case of gezel hager, where someone stole from a Ger. The law states that if a person steals from a Ger and that Ger dies, the thief must confess and return the money to the Kohanim. Specifically, the money must be given to the anshei mishmar serving during the week of the confession. If the thief gives the money to the Kohanim and then dies, the heirs cannot reclaim that money. The Gemara elaborates on this point.

Abaye states, "Shema mina kesef mechaper mechtza." If the money were not to atone at all, the heirs would demand it back. The reasoning is clear: the thief did not yet bring his korban asham. He must give the money and then bring the korban. Since he died before bringing the korban, we can infer that giving the money does indeed accomplish something—it provides partial atonement. If it did not, the heirs would have a valid claim for the return of the money. Thus, we conclude that giving the money provides a measure of kapara.

However, the Gemara challenges this conclusion: "Ela me'ata chatat shemetu ba'aleha tipok lechulin." If a person designated a korban chatat for a sin and died before it was offered on the Mizbe'ach, the law states that the animal must be put to death. The question arises: why not allow the animal to be used for something else, since it was designated for a korban? The response is that there is a specific halacha le'Moshe mi'Sinai that governs this situation, indicating that a chatat whose owner died must be put to death.

Next, we consider a similar case regarding a korban asham. If a person designated a korban asham and died, what is the ruling? The Gemara states that the asham must graze until it develops a blemish and then be sold. The question arises: why not allow the korban to be repurposed? The Gemara responds that there is also a halacha le'Moshe mi'Sinai regarding this, which states that if the chatat must die, so too must the asham in a similar circumstance.

We explore the implications of these rulings further. For example, if one gave the asham to Yehoyariv and the money to Yedaiah, we have a disagreement between Rabbi Yehuda and the Chachamim about whether the asham follows the kesef or vice versa. Rabbi Yehuda asserts that the kesef goes back to the asham, while the Chachamim argue the opposite. The Gemara clarifies the circumstances surrounding this case, emphasizing the importance of proper procedure in the handling of these offerings.

In summary, the Gemara discusses various scenarios involving the gezel and the need for atonement, highlighting the intricate relationships between money, korbanot, and the laws governing their use. The discussions illustrate the depth of halachic reasoning and the significance of intention and timing in fulfilling these mitzvot, reinforcing the need for careful observance of the laws as they relate to both communal and individual responsibilities.