A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Avodah Zarah 52A - 52B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
August 3, 2007
Duration
54:03

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The Eddie D. Sitt edition presents an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, focusing on Masechet Avodah Zarah, Daf Nun Aleph Amud Bet. Today's Daf is studied le'iluy nishmat Avraham ben Esther, ruach Hashem tenichehu be-Gan Eden, amen. Additionally, we pray for a complete recovery for Kobi ben Jamie, both for the soul and the body, among the other sick of Israel. May it be God's will, and let us say amen.

We begin today’s Daf, Nun Aleph Amud Bet, starting from the Mishna. The Mishna discusses the case of idol worship that has a garden or a bathhouse associated with it. The priests would collect entry fees for the use of these facilities. However, the idol itself is not considered idol worship, nor is the garden or bathhouse. The revenue generated was merely a means for the priests to receive money. The Mishna states that one can benefit from them without paying, meaning that one can use the bathhouse for free, but it is prohibited to pay because that would directly benefit the priests involved in idol worship. Thus, one can enjoy the facilities without financial exchange, which would associate the user with the idol worship.

However, if the bathhouse is owned partially by the idol worship and partially by regular ownership, one may benefit from it whether paying or not. The reasoning is that since not all the revenue goes to the idol worship, paying or not paying does not affect the halachic status of the benefit derived from it. The Gemara will further elucidate this distinction.

Next, the Mishna addresses the case of idol worship belonging to a non-Jew. It is immediately prohibited, even before any act of worship is performed. In contrast, if the idol belongs to a Jew, it is not prohibited until the Jew engages in worship. This distinction between the idol worship of non-Jews and Jews is significant, and the Gemara will explore the logic behind it further.

Abaye explains that the term "betovah" in the Mishna refers specifically to giving money to the priests. Thus, one is not allowed to pay the priests for using the bathhouse. However, if one pays the workers who serve the idol worship, that is permissible. The Gemara presents two interpretations of Abaye’s statement regarding the partnership case in the Mishna. One interpretation suggests that in a partnership, one may give money to the other owners but not to the priests. The second interpretation suggests that even in a partnership, one cannot give money to the priests, and this remains consistent with the earlier discussion.

The Gemara raises a critical question regarding the application of Abaye's statement to these cases. If one learns Abaye's statement regarding the first case, it implies that one cannot give money to the priests in any scenario. Conversely, if one applies it to the second case, it suggests that one could give money to the priests, as long as it is a partnership. This leads to a deeper inquiry into the implications of ownership and partnership in relation to idol worship.

As the discussions progress, the Gemara highlights the halachic implications of the ownership of the idol worship. The idol worship of a non-Jew is immediately prohibited, whereas the idol worship of a Jew is not prohibited unless it is actively worshipped. This distinction is rooted in the nature of the worship itself, with the implication that the act of worship elevates the status of the idol to one of prohibition.

The Gemara continues to delve into the complexities of these rulings, exploring the nuances of when a vessel or item associated with idol worship becomes prohibited. For instance, if a vessel that was used for idol worship breaks and is then repaired, does it regain its status as prohibited? The discussion reveals a consensus among the sages that the vessels used for idol worship are only prohibited once they are actively worshipped.

In conclusion, the Gemara navigates through various cases and interpretations, emphasizing the importance of ownership and intention in determining the halachic status of items associated with idol worship. The discussions reflect the intricate balance between maintaining the sanctity of worship and allowing for practical engagement with the world around us.