A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Nidah 28A - 28B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
May 10, 2008
Duration
50:38

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The Eddie B Sit Edition, an audio series on the Talmud Bavli, specifically Masechet Niddah, has been dedicated by Ron Yaish in honor of his children, Ovadya Avraham ben Raizel Shifra and Levi Yitzchak ben Raizel Shifra, as well as in honor of his wife, Raizel Shifra bat Tova Yocheved. We extend blessings to Ron Yaish and his wife, wishing them, with the help of God, to have more children and to derive much nachat from their current children, both spiritually and materially. May it be so, amen.

We begin today's daf on chaf chet amud rishon, and we are presented with a teaching from our sages: Tano rabbanan. The text discusses a case where a woman experiences a miscarriage, leading to the emergence of a hand or a leg. The halacha states that if a hand or leg comes out, the mother is considered t'meiah leidah, meaning she is impure due to childbirth. Importantly, we do not suspect that this body part came from a guf atum, a body that is missing, which we previously learned does not create tum'at leidah. Thus, the emergence of a body part indicates a legitimate birth, and the mother is impure.

Rav Adda bar Ahava states that such a woman does not receive yemei tohar, the days of purity following childbirth. The reason for this is that we cannot ascertain whether the woman gave birth a while ago and her days of purity have already passed, or if this occurrence is indeed following a recent birth. Therefore, we cannot assign her yemei tohar without clarity on the timing of her birth.

Rashi clarifies that we cannot determine when the majority of the fetus emerged, which is the criterion for establishing yemei hatumah and yemei taharah for a woman who has given birth. The count begins from the moment the majority of the body is expelled. If only a body part emerges, we cannot conclude when the majority was expelled, leading to a stringent ruling from Rav Adda bar Ahava.

Rav Yosef challenges this by citing a mishnah that discusses a woman who gives birth but is unsure of what she delivered, whether a male or female. In this case, she must observe the stringencies associated with both genders, which include 14 days of tum'at for a female and a shorter period for a male. The mishnah indicates that even if a body part is expelled, we must consider the possibility that the majority of the fetus has already been expelled, thus complicating the determination of yemei tohar.

Abaye addresses the implications of the mishnah, noting that it does not explicitly mention niddah, which would indicate a concern for tum'at niddah blood. The mishnah suggests that if the woman is uncertain about the nature of her birth, she must observe the stringent requirements for both a male and female. Rashi explains that the first 14 days post-birth are considered impure, even without any visible signs, due to the nature of leidah itself.

We then examine the scenario of a tumtum or androgynos, where the woman must observe both male and female requirements for purity and impurity. This reflects the complexity of determining the halachic status of births involving ambiguous gender presentations. The halacha mandates that the woman must adhere to the regulations for both genders in these cases.

As we delve deeper into the text, we encounter discussions about the implications of various scenarios where a child may emerge in parts or with ambiguous characteristics. The sages explore the nuances of these situations, emphasizing the need for clarity in determining the status of tum'ah and taharah for the mother.

In conclusion, the ongoing discussions highlight the intricate and often challenging nature of halachic rulings concerning childbirth and purity. Each case requires careful consideration of the circumstances, the nature of the birth, and the implications for the mother’s status. Through this diligence, we adhere to the principles laid out in our sacred texts, ensuring that we navigate these complexities with respect and understanding.