A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Nida 38A - 38B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
May 16, 2008
Duration
31:32

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The Eddie B. Sitt Edition, an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, Masechet Niddah, has been dedicated by Ron Yaish in honor of his children, Ovadia Avraham ben Rachel Shifra and Levi Yitzchak ben Rachel Shifra. It is also dedicated in honor of his wife, Rachel Shifra bat Tova Yocheved. May Ron Yaish and his wife continue, be'ezrat Hashem, to be blessed with more children and may they see much nachat from their current children, both spiritually and materially. Amen.

Today’s daf is Daf Lamed Chet. We are studying in memory of Avraham ben Ester and Yosef ben Sabot. May their souls find rest in Gan Eden, Amen. We begin on Daf Lamed Chet, starting from the words "Tanya." The text states, "Tanya, Rabbi Meir says..." This section presents intriguing halachic cases. One notable point is that it is possible for a woman to see blood for 150 days during her pregnancy, and yet she does not become a zavah. This raises the question: how can she see blood for such an extended period without being classified as a zavah, which typically requires three consecutive days of bleeding? The Gemara queries, "How is this possible?"

In this case, the woman is pregnant and experiences labor pains. However, we learned previously that when a woman has labor pains, she does not become a zavah, as the bleeding is attributed to the pains of labor rather than to the status of zavah. To illustrate how one could accumulate 150 days of bleeding without becoming a zavah, the Gemara presents a scenario: during the first 11 days of her zavut, she sees blood for the last two days. These two days do not qualify her as a zavah gedolah. After completing the 11 days, she enters her niddah days and observes bleeding for seven consecutive days. This does not classify her as a zavah gedolah either, as she only saw two days during her zavut and seven during her niddah days, totaling nine days. Following her niddah days, she sees blood for two days, which represents the beginning of her next cycle of zavut. Thus, she has seen blood for a total of 11 days so far.

Additionally, there are 50 days of pain from the pregnancy that cannot classify her as a zavah. According to Rabbi Meir, these 50 days of pain are attributed to the birth pains, and therefore, they do not count against her status. Adding these 50 days to the 11 days gives us a total of 61 days. If she gives birth to a girl, she will see blood for the next 80 days, which again does not classify her as a zavah. Thus, adding 80 days to the 61 days results in 141 days. After this, she sees seven days of niddah, bringing the total to 148 days. Finally, she observes two days of zavut, totaling 150 days of bleeding without being classified as a zavah gedolah.

The Gemara then challenges Rabbi Meir, stating that if it is possible for a woman to see blood for 150 days without becoming a zavah, one could argue that she could bleed her entire life without ever becoming a zavah. The discussion continues with various scenarios that illustrate how a woman might experience extended bleeding without the halachic designation of zavah. For instance, if a woman gives birth on day 62 and continues to see blood during the permissible days, she will not be classified as a zavah due to the nature of the bleeding being connected to the labor and subsequent pains.

As the discussion progresses, Rabbi Meir's position is scrutinized, particularly regarding how the laws of zavah apply in cases of miscarriage. The Gemara clarifies that the laws concerning labor pains and zavah only apply to viable births, and in the case of a miscarriage, the halachic implications differ significantly. The text emphasizes that while a woman may experience bleeding due to a miscarriage, she will be classified as a zavah if the bleeding exceeds the prescribed limits.

Another case is introduced, where it is possible for a woman to see blood for 100 days without becoming a zavah. The analysis follows a similar pattern, detailing how the counts of days and the conditions surrounding them affect her status. The Gemara concludes that while it is feasible for a woman to see blood for extended periods without being classified as a zavah, there are limits and specific conditions that must be met.

Ultimately, the halachic discourse reveals a deep understanding of the complexities surrounding the laws of niddah, zavah, and the implications of pregnancy. The careful distinctions made throughout the discussions highlight the importance of precise halachic reasoning and the nuanced understanding required to navigate these laws effectively. The Gemara encourages further exploration of these cases, emphasizing the need for clarity in halachic rulings, particularly in matters concerning women’s health and status.

Baruch Adonai le-olam, Amen ve-Amen.