A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Ketuvot 107A - 107B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
May 12, 2006
Duration
56:11

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The Mishnah discusses a case where a man traveled overseas without providing his wife with sustenance. The central question is whether the wife must take an oath before the court that she was not left with provisions. One opinion states that she does not need to swear now because she will do so later, when she collects her marriage contract, at which point she will swear that she did not receive any extra money. This oath would cover any sustenance she might have taken unlawfully. Another opinion holds that she should swear both at the beginning, when receiving sustenance, and at the end, when collecting her marriage contract.

The Gemara delves into related cases. It is taught that Rav rules that the court can allocate sustenance for a married woman whose husband has gone overseas. The court can access the husband's assets to provide this sustenance. Shmuel, however, disagrees, stating that the court cannot access his assets without his permission while he is away. The Gemara proceeds to explain the details of this disagreement.

Rav, also referred to as Abba, concedes that for the first three months of the husband's absence, his assets should not be accessed. This is because it is assumed that a man does not leave his home empty-handed; he would provide his wife with some means of support for this initial period. This rule applies when there was peace in the household before his departure. Thus, the disagreement between Rav and Shmuel specifically concerns the period after the first three months.

The Gemara then considers a scenario where it is heard that the husband has died while overseas. In this instance, everyone agrees that the court may allocate sustenance to the wife. Rashi explains that there is no reason to suspect the wife of impropriety in this case. Even if she had received a sum of money from her husband before his death, this would be accounted for when she eventually collects her marriage contract and takes an oath that she received no additional funds that could be applied towards it. Furthermore, the concern that the husband might have made a deal with her to keep her earnings in exchange for not providing sustenance is also irrelevant after his death, as her earnings are no longer subject to the husband's claim, and the marriage contract obligates his estate to provide her sustenance.

Shmuel's reasons for not allowing access to the husband's assets while he is alive are twofold, as explained by Rav Zvid and Rav Papa. Rav Zvid suggests concern that the husband might have already given her a sum of money for her sustenance before leaving. Rav Papa offers a second concern: perhaps the husband and wife had an agreement that she would keep her earnings, and he would be exempt from providing sustenance. If such a deal was made, the court should not then compel the husband's assets to provide sustenance, as this would constitute double-dipping on the wife's part.

The Gemara then explores the practical difference (nafka mina) between these two reasons. The first difference concerns a mature woman who is not financially self-sufficient. According to Rav Zvid's concern, the husband might have entrusted her with a sum of money, as she is responsible. Therefore, the court should not access his assets. However, according to Rav Papa's concern, since she is not earning enough, she would not have agreed to a deal to forgo sustenance in exchange for keeping her earnings. Thus, in this specific case, Rav Papa's reasoning would permit accessing the husband's assets, while Rav Zvid's would not.

The second difference concerns a minor who is financially self-sufficient. According to Rav Zvid's concern, a husband would not entrust a minor with a large sum of money. Therefore, the court could access his assets. However, according to Rav Papa's concern, since she is earning well, she might have agreed to a deal to keep her earnings in exchange for not receiving sustenance. In this case, Rav Papa's reasoning would prevent accessing the assets, while Rav Zvid's would permit it. The commentators clarify that Rav Papa is not necessarily disagreeing with Rav Zvid but rather offering an additional concern. Therefore, the first nafka mina is more theoretical, while the second presents a clearer distinction between their individual positions.

The Gemara then challenges Shmuel's position by citing the Mishnah, which states that when a man goes overseas and his wife demands sustenance, the court provides it. The Mishnah's disagreement is only about whether she must swear, implying that providing sustenance from the husband's assets is universally accepted. Shmuel reinterprets the Mishnah, explaining that it refers to a case where it was heard that the husband had died. In such a scenario, Shmuel agrees that sustenance is provided from the assets.

Another challenge to Shmuel comes from a teaching that if a husband returns from overseas and claims he already provided his wife with sustenance, he is believed, and she must return any funds she received from his assets. This implies that the court initially accessed his assets while he was alive. Shmuel again answers that this case also refers to a situation where it was initially heard that the husband had died, and the court accessed his assets, but then he unexpectedly returned, proving the rumors false.

A further challenge to Shmuel is presented: if a husband goes overseas and his wife demands sustenance, and the court allocates it from his assets, even if the husband had previously stated that she should keep her earnings and he would not provide sustenance, the court's prior action of allocating assets stands. This again suggests that assets are accessed while the husband is alive. Shmuel provides the same answer: the case refers to a situation where it was heard that the husband died, prompting the court's action.

The Gemara brings another teaching: if a man goes overseas and his wife demands sustenance, the court accesses his estate to support his wife, but not his children. It also mentions "another matter" (davar acher) that is not supported. This again seems to contradict Shmuel's view that assets are not accessed while the husband is alive. Rav Shishat offers a new explanation: the case refers to a husband who appointed an administrator (apotropos) to manage his affairs and ensure his wife's sustenance. In such a scenario, the husband's intention to provide sustenance is clear, and the concerns of Rav Zvid and Rav Papa do not apply. The administrator's role indicates that no lump sum was given, and no deal was made regarding her earnings.

The Gemara then asks why the children are not supported in this scenario. If an administrator was appointed, it should be for the children as well. The Gemara replies that the administrator was appointed for the wife specifically, not the children. The Gemara questions this distinction, asking who specified such a division. The answer provided is that the case refers to a situation where only one witness testified that the husband died. For the wife, such testimony is sufficient to allow her to remarry, as she is presumed to investigate the matter thoroughly. Since she can remarry, it is as if the husband died for her, and she is entitled to sustenance from his estate. However, for the children, a single witness is insufficient to establish their father's death for inheritance purposes, and thus they are not entitled to sustenance from the estate based on this testimony.

Regarding the "another matter" mentioned in the teaching, Rav Yosef offers two interpretations. One view is that it refers to adornments (tachshidim). If a husband goes overseas, his wife is not supported by funds from his estate for cosmetics and makeup. The other view is that it refers to communal charity (tzedakah); the court does not access his estate to pay for communal charity while he is away. The Gemara discusses the logical implications of these views. The one who says no funds for adornments would certainly agree no funds for charity, as charity is not even for the wife. However, the one who says no funds for charity might still agree to provide for adornments, because a husband would not want his wife to appear unkempt even in his absence. This rule about adornments applies only if the lead covering has no cracks; if there are cracks, the pottery beneath can absorb, making it unusable for certain purposes.

The Gemara presents another challenge to Shmuel from a teaching about a woman who falls to Yibum (levirate marriage). For the first three months after her husband's death, she is supported by his estate because she cannot perform Yibum during this period (due to the waiting period to ascertain pregnancy). After three months, the original husband's estate is no longer obligated, and the potential Yavam (brother-in-law) is not yet obligated until Yibum or Halitza (release) is performed. If the Yavam then flees without performing either, the court accesses his assets to support the woman. This again implies that assets are accessed even when the man is alive and absent. The Gemara explains that in this case, the two concerns raised earlier (that the husband gave her money or made a deal about her earnings) do not apply. The Yavam has not yet established a relationship that would warrant giving her money, nor is she yet obligated to give him her earnings.

A further challenge to Shmuel: a woman and her husband went overseas. She returns and claims her husband died. We believe her testimony to allow her to remarry and claim her marriage contract. If she claims her husband divorced her, she is not believed for divorce, but she is supported from his estate up to the value of her marriage contract. This again suggests accessing assets while the husband is alive and absent. Shmuel again answers that this refers to a case where, after she claimed divorce, witnesses testified that the husband had died. The Gemara then asks why she is only supported up to the value of her marriage contract, rather than indefinitely as an unaided widow. The reply is that because she herself claimed divorce, she has limited her rights; if she had remained silent, she would have received indefinite sustenance as a widow.

Another challenge: if a minor girl, married by her mother or brother, borrows money for sustenance while her husband is overseas, and then makes a refusal (mi'un) upon his return (retroactively nullifying the marriage), the husband is not obligated to repay her debts. This implies that if she had not made mi'un, the husband would have been obligated to repay, meaning his assets would have been accessed while he was away. Shmuel responds that this case refers to a minor who is not entrusted with money by her husband, nor does she earn enough to forgo sustenance. Therefore, in such a case, even Shmuel would agree that there are no grounds for suspicion, and her sustenance should be provided from the husband's assets.

The Gemara then discusses the final ruling. A case came before Rabbi in Beth Shaarim, where a husband went overseas and his wife needed sustenance. Rabbi ruled to access the estate and provide sustenance, aligning with Rav's view. However, a similar case came before Rabbi Ishmael, and he did not provide sustenance, aligning with Shmuel's view. Rabbi Yohanan questioned Rabbi Ishmael's strictness, as the Mishnah implies that sustenance is always given, with the only debate being about the oath. Elif Shemam Bar Abba, in the name of Rabbi, explained that Shmuel in Babylonia interpreted the Mishnah as referring to a case where the husband had died, thus allowing sustenance. Rabbi Yohanan rejected this interpretation as too forced. A reversed version of this episode is then presented, with Rabbi not providing sustenance and Rabbi Ishmael providing it, but the same debate about interpretation ensues. The final ruling is that the law follows Rabbi, meaning sustenance is provided to a married woman whose husband has gone overseas.

Rav Huna, in the name of Rav, states that a woman may forgo her right to sustenance in exchange for keeping her earnings. This is because the rabbinic enactment of sustenance is for her benefit, and she has the right to waive it. Finally, the Gemara discusses pottery vessels covered in lead, called kunyah. Rav Zvid states that if these vessels are white or black, they are permissible for use, as the lead coating seals the pottery, preventing absorption. However, if they are green, they are not permissible because the green coloring contains alum, which makes the pottery porous. This permission for white or black vessels only applies if there are no cracks in the lead covering; if there are cracks, the pottery can absorb, rendering them problematic for use with non-kosher items or on Passover.