A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Nazir 9A - 9B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
June 30, 2006
Duration
60:52

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The Elliot B. Sit edition, an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, is currently studying Masechet Nazir, specifically Daf Tet. This study is dedicated for the elevation of the souls of Mordechai Zekeni ben Yosef ben Sarah and Avraham ben Esther, may their souls be granted rest in Gan Eden, amen. Today's Daf is also being studied for the complete recovery of Moshe ben Dina, Sarah Ruchama bat Rachel, and Sarah bat Rachel. May the Almighty bring them healing of body and soul, and may all of Israel experience healing, and let us say amen.

We begin today’s Daf on Daf Tet, starting a new Perek, Perek Sheni. The discussion opens with a statement: "Hareini nazir min hagrogerot u'min hadeveilah." A man declares he is a nazir from dried figs and from pressed figs. It is important to note that we know there is no such thing as nazirut concerning figs, as nazirut is specifically related to wine. However, the individual has made a declaration regarding becoming a nazir from grogerot, which are dried figs, and deveilah, which refers to pressed figs.

Beit Shammai states that he is indeed a nazir, while Beit Hillel disagrees, asserting that he is not a nazir. Rabbi Yehuda adds that even when Beit Shammai made their ruling, they only did so when the person said, "Harei hen alai korban." Rabbi Yehuda argues that there is no machloket regarding whether he is a nazir. The question at hand is whether he has made a neder concerning the figs. Thus, according to Rabbi Yehuda, if he declared, "Hareini nazir min hagrogerot vehen alai kekorban," then Beit Shammai maintains he has forbidden himself from the figs, but this has nothing to do with nazirut.

This leads us to two distinct interpretations of the machloket between Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel. The first interpretation posits that the machloket revolves around whether he is a nazir or not, independent of whether he is forbidden to eat figs. Beit Shammai asserts he is a nazir, while Beit Hillel maintains he is not. The second interpretation, as presented by Rabbi Yehuda, states that there is no argument regarding his status as a nazir; everyone agrees he is not a nazir. The machloket instead concerns whether he has made a neder regarding the figs, with Beit Shammai asserting he has, provided he stated, "Ve'harei alai kekorban," while Beit Hillel maintains he has not.

Let us clarify the two formulations. In the first formulation, the machloket between Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel pertains specifically to nazirut, with no connection to nedarim. The statement "Hareini nazir min hagrogerot" leads Beit Shammai to conclude he is a nazir, while Beit Hillel disagrees, stating he is neither a nazir nor bound by any neder. In the second interpretation, Rabbi Yehuda suggests that Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel were never arguing about nazirut; he is certainly not a nazir. The machloket instead is whether he has forbidden himself from figs. Beit Shammai would affirm this if he said the words "Ve'harei alai kekorban," while Beit Hillel would still consider it permissible.

The Gemara now delves deeper into this discussion. The phrase "Hareini nazir min hagrogerot u'min hadeveilah" prompts the question: Why should he be considered a nazir? The Torah explicitly states that nazirut is related to wine and the vine. Since he stated he is a nazir from dried and pressed figs, which have no connection to wine, why does Beit Shammai assert he is a nazir? The Gemara explains that Beit Shammai follows the opinion of Rabbi Meir, who states that a person does not utter meaningless words. This principle implies that when the individual declared, "Hareini nazir," it must carry significance.

Rabbi Meir's perspective is illustrated through an example in the context of the laws of valuation. If a person declares that their value is upon them, we assess their actual value according to the Torah's prescribed amounts. However, if they declare the value of an ineligible item, Rabbi Meir argues that their words still carry meaning, and we interpret their intention based on the value of the item in question. Therefore, when the individual states "Hareini nazir," it cannot be dismissed as meaningless, and thus Beit Shammai maintains he is indeed a nazir.

Moving forward, the Gemara questions how Beit Shammai interprets the latter part of his statement concerning the figs, especially in light of the principle that a person does not speak in vain. Beit Shammai interprets the declaration as a valid acceptance of nazirut, despite the inapplicability of the figs to the nazirut laws.

In contrast, Beit Hillel subscribes to the opinion of Rabbi Yosi, who posits that a person is held accountable for their last statement. Therefore, when the man declared "Hareini nazir," he is considered a nazir; however, his subsequent statement about the figs negates the nazirut. This leads Beit Hillel to conclude that since he mixed his language, he did not properly accept nazirut, and thus he is not bound by it.

The Gemara continues to explore the implications of these interpretations, highlighting the nuances of language and intention in halachic rulings. The discussion illustrates the complexity of how declarations are understood within the framework of Jewish law, emphasizing the importance of intention and clarity in speech.