A Yissachar / Zebulun Partnership in Loving Memory of Yishak ben Simcha A"H & Felicia bat Miriam A"H
Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Menachot 85A - 85B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
December 7, 2007
Duration
57:51

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The Eddie B. Sit edition presents an audio series of the Talmud Bavli. Today, we study Gemara Menachot Daf Peh He, dedicating our learning for the elevation of the souls of Avraham ben Esther and Moshe ben Nun. May their souls find peace in the Garden of Eden, Amen.

We begin on Peh Dalet Amud Bet, focusing on the statement of Rav Ashi, located in the second wide line. We are engaged in a sugya that discusses a braita indicating that one could take bikkurim from produce that grows on roofs, in dilapidated buildings, in flower pots, or even in boats. This seems to contradict the position of Ulla, who maintains that bikkurim must come only from choice produce, or muvchar. According to Ulla, if one brings non-choice goods, they are not even considered kadosh.

The Gemara questions this by addressing the mention of produce from a boat, suggesting that it pertains not to bikkurim but rather to menachot. The menachot do not need to come from choice goods, which would align with the statement in the braita. However, the Gemara challenges this interpretation, asking how we can assert that it refers back to menachot. The quoted pasuk discusses bikkurim and states, “Kol tahor b'veitecha yochal oto,” implying that any member of the kohen's family can partake in it. In contrast, menachot can only be consumed by the zichrei kehuna, the male descendants of the kohen. Thus, how can we reconcile this discrepancy?

Ammar b'Masharshiya offers a solution by indicating that there are two subjects in the pasuk. One part states “L'cha yiheyeh,” which refers to menachot, and the other states “Kol tahor b'veitecha yochal oto,” which pertains to bikkurim. The former is designated for the kohen and his family, while the latter is permissible for the entire family of the kohen. Therefore, the braita discussing produce from various locations, including a boat, is indeed addressing two different categories: bikkurim and menachot.

Continuing, Rav Ashi asserts that the entirety of the pasuk is discussing menachot. The latter part of the pasuk specifically refers to the mincha of the loaves of the toda, indicating that “L'cha yiheyeh” applies solely to zichrei kehuna, while “Kol tahor b'veitecha” includes all the kohanim. The Gemara further explains that the mincha of the toda allows both the kohen and his family to partake, thus resolving the earlier contradiction regarding bikkurim.

Next, the Gemara presents a machloket regarding the status of bikkurim brought from inferior produce. Rabbi Yochanan states, “If one brought it, it is not kadosh,” while Resh Lakish argues that it does become kadosh, equating it to a thin animal brought as a korban. The Gemara seeks to clarify the reasoning behind Rabbi Yochanan's position and finds that he had a prophetic dream in which he received this insight.

In discussing bikkurim, the Gemara cites the pasuk requiring that they come from the first fruits, or mereshit. From this, the Gemara deduces that it does not refer to all first fruits but only to the choice ones. Similarly, the phrase “me'artzecha” limits the produce to specific regions, excluding mountainous areas and valleys where the fruits are inferior. Thus, both mereshit and me'artzecha serve to define the acceptable origins of bikkurim.

As the discussion continues, the Gemara examines the implications of the statements made by Rabbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish. According to Resh Lakish, the allowance for inferior produce is clear, while Rabbi Yochanan maintains a stricter view. The Gemara notes that this debate reflects a broader machloket among the Tanna'im.

In further clarifying the braita that discusses produce from roofs and dilapidated buildings, the Gemara concludes that the two statements do not contradict each other. It explains that the produce from a roof can be accepted under specific conditions, while the braita regarding menachot emphasizes the necessity for choice goods.

Ultimately, the Gemara arrives at the conclusion that while one can bring bikkurim from various locations, the quality of the produce is paramount, aligning with the teachings of Ulla regarding the need for kadosh items. The Gemara then explores the intricacies of how produce is cultivated and prepared for offerings, emphasizing the significance of intention and quality in fulfilling the commandments.

In the concluding sections, the Gemara reflects on the importance of choice produce and the processes involved in bringing offerings to the Beit Hamikdash. It highlights the standards set forth for both bikkurim and menachot, underscoring the need for care and precision in fulfilling these sacred obligations.