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Rabbi Eli Mansour

Daf Yomi

Bava Batra 157A - 157B (12th Cycle Daf Yomi Shiur)

Lectured by Rabbi Eli Mansour

Published
April 6, 2007
Duration
77:49

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The Eddie B. Sit edition presents an audio series of the Talmud Bavli, focusing on Masechet Bava Batra. This Masechet, the longest in Shas by page count, has been dedicated by our dear friend and pioneering student in the Daf Yomi Shiur, Adam Ezra ben Shimshon Reuven Chaiyahu, for the success of his beloved children. May they grow to bring him much nachas, possess wisdom, understanding, and knowledge, and with God's help, may they merit, in due time, appropriate matches, sustenance, wealth, and honor from now until eternity. Amen. Today's Daf is being studied for the elevation of the soul of Avraham ben Esther, may his soul be granted rest in the Garden of Eden. Amen. Today’s Daf is also being studied for the complete recovery of Moshe ben Luna and Mickey Meir ben Jamie Jamila. May their souls and bodies be healed swiftly, and may it be God's will, and we say Amen.

We begin our study on Daf Kuf Nun Vav Amud Bet. Rabbi Elazar states, "On Shabbat, his words remain valid even though he cannot write, but not during the week." This indicates that until now, we have learned from Rabbi Elazar, who insists on the necessity of a kinyan. The concept of a 'shchiv mera' (a deathbed declaration) is contentious; he argues that one cannot merely verbally transfer ownership without an official kinyan. However, he concedes that one day a week, it is permissible for a shchiv mera's declaration to be accepted verbally, and when is that? On Shabbat.

Rabbi Elazar explains that if a person makes a declaration regarding the division of his assets on Shabbat, the sages established that his words are valid without requiring a kinyan or writing, so that his mind does not become distressed, since under normal circumstances he cannot write on Shabbat. Therefore, Rabbi Elazar clarifies his position: the shchiv mera's declaration holds weight only on Shabbat. However, during the week, where there is a mechanism for kinyan and writing, why should his mind be troubled? If he can write, why not simply do so? Thus, on weekdays, one must adhere to the standard practices of kinyan.

Rabbi Yehoshua counters Rabbi Elazar, asserting that if they permit verbal transfer on Shabbat, then all the more so should it be allowed on weekdays. His reasoning is based on the principle that if something is permissible when kinyan cannot be performed, it should certainly be permissible when kinyan can be performed. This leads to a well-known principle: "Kol haraui le'bila ein bila me'akavto," meaning if something is suitable for mixing, the mixing does not prevent its validity. This principle is rooted in the laws of the Temple, where if a mincha (meal offering) is prepared with the proper proportions, even if it is not mixed, it remains valid.

Rabbi Yehoshua's position emphasizes that if on Shabbat, where kinyan cannot be performed, a shchiv mera's declaration is valid, then during the week, where kinyan is possible, it should also be valid without the need for a formal kinyan. The Gemara then discusses various types of kinyan and their requirements, including the distinctions between movable property and real estate, which require different methods of transfer.

Furthermore, Rabbi Elazar’s approach is contrasted with that of the sages, who maintain that a kinyan is necessary for a valid transfer, and they argue that it is only in the case of a katan (minor) that one can act on his behalf without the need for a kinyan. The Gemara elaborates on the implications of these rulings, particularly in the context of inheritance and the complexities that arise when determining the order of death between relatives.

In one scenario, the Gemara presents a case where a house collapses, killing both a father and son simultaneously. The discussion revolves around the question of who died first, which can significantly impact the distribution of assets. The creditors of the son claim that the father died first, allowing the son’s assets to be inherited by them. Conversely, the father’s heirs argue that the son died first, which would mean the father’s assets would remain intact.

As the discussion unfolds, the Gemara highlights the need for clarity in such cases, emphasizing the importance of the order of death in determining inheritance rights. The sages debate various legal principles and precedents, including the concept of 'chazakah' (presumption of ownership) and how it applies in situations of simultaneous death.

Ultimately, the Gemara concludes that in instances where there is uncertainty regarding the order of death, the assets should remain with the heirs of the deceased until proven otherwise. The legal principles discussed throughout this segment underscore the intricate nature of property rights and the significance of clear, documented agreements in matters of inheritance and ownership.

The exploration of these legal concepts continues, with the Gemara addressing the implications of verbal agreements versus written contracts, and the different levels of authority that apply in various scenarios. Each ruling is carefully analyzed to ensure that the halachic standards are upheld, reinforcing the importance of clarity and precision in Jewish law.